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  1. What would be a good idea would be to check out the South by Southwest festival website. Every year they release a giant torrent file containing tracks from almost all the bands that play there. Not the official website, but it gets the job done. Happy hunting!
  2. I went and stood around with about 300 other people or so for an hour, but they never showed. Fucking cowards.
  3. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/sto...p-4801884c.html However, they got stopped at the border yesterday, so they may not actually make it into the country. The funeral is at a church about 10 minutes from my place. I'm going to try to be there, but hopefully the press won't be. Those bastards don't need any more publicity.
  4. I've refused to buy an iPod for the last few years. I got one for Christmas, but I just have a bunch of audiobooks that I don't listen to on it. I dunno, there's something about having a huge pile of CD's and records around that I can rifle through that I enjoy immensley. It makes sharing music with friends way easier, too.
  5. i disagree with this, because it could be argued intensely/easily that jesus was a proponent of conformity, just not to the status quo, but to his own brand/schism of conformity ;) I'm an emo kid, non-conforming as can be/you'd be non-conforming too if you looked just like me :angry: I know exactly what you're saying, which is why I said that it's "a bit of a stretch." But if you remove the aspects of divinity and whatnot from the man, then you still get a figure who challenged the cruelty and corruption of the political and religious leaders of the day (regardless of the modern day implications). This really isn't the place to get into a debate of that nature, but I still hope you could see the point I was trying to make.
  6. I think there is something wrong with punk being synonymous with revolutionary. What great social movement did the Sex Pistols or the Ramones instigate? It would be far more accurate to say that the punks are part of the revolutionary spirit rather than the revolutionaries embody the punk spirit, although I disagree strongly with that, I still want to be fair to those who do use the music as a productive means to express themselves and motivate others. Nowadays, it seems that calling ones self "punk" is just an excuse to be an asshole. I work with a guy who went down to North Dakota and while there he urinated on the floor of the bathroom in his hotel, so he could tell people that he "pissed on America." More to the point, here in Winnipeg, they all seem to live in Tuxedo, Charleswood, and St. James (i.e. the better-off neighborhoods). My other problem with punk is that all the things you've said here, while true, do not define punk alone. R'n'B from the early 50's was hugely ostracized by the mainstream for exactly those same reasons. The same can be said for the bebop style of jazz in the 1940s. That music probably produced far more social change than punk has ever done. I don't want anyone to think that from this I'm a punk hater. The Clash fucking kill. I think on the greatest thing about punk is that because it's so simple, anyone can do it, which is what music should be all about. No one should be excluded from taking part in making music. Whether or not I actually like the music being made is beside the point. They're indulging in their passion and they feel good about themselves, and nothing can denigrate that. PS John Cage is the most punk. ;)
  7. Reading Greg Graffin's article, it seems that Punk is nothing more than a label people throw around that can potentially define anyone who railed against the status quo. In other words, it's just a generic term. Martin Luther King Jr. could be a punk; Ghandi could be a punk; this may be a bit of a stretch, but Jesus Christ could've been a punk. Matt Good could be a punk. You see where I'm going with this. There's something a little bothersome about making a label then applying it across a broad spectrum of people and then claiming it as your own. I don't see the point in saying "he's punk" or "she's more punk than he is." Talking about the musical genre, however, I don't know. The music could embody that spirit, but I don't think anyone would consider Matt Good or Neil Young, for example, to be punk singers, in which case you'd have to boil down the argument to the musical elements, which opens up a whole other can of worms.
  8. Reading this thread makes me realize how out of the loop I am. That said... Arcade Fire - 'Neon Bible' Matthew Good - 'Hospital Music' Radiohead - 'In Rainbows'
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