Whats The Deal With Carmelina Being Played Live?

[finboy]

of the two live versions i've heard (edmonton, on youtube, and the one from the NF store), neither seemed to really capture the power of the song, especially the outro solo. from reading an old thread on here (2004), it alluded that matt likes the song but can't figure out what to do with it live. are there any other live recordings? more importantly, are there any live versions that actually sound good?

[AnOceanPearl]

On AoB, the song is in Drop-D tuning, minus a half step, and he just rearranged it to be played in Eb, which is what he generally uses.

[finboy]

really??? that strikes me as weird, esp. considering on the acoustic tour, he re-tuned to dadgad tuning for fine art of falling apart (thankful he did), drop d gives the song a lot of low end.

[AnOceanPearl]

I think Fine Art is in Drop-D minus a half on Loser Anthems. That's at least how I figured out basslines to it *shrug*

[reckoner]

here's the thing, even if it is in flat tuning, or with a drop d minus half or anything like that, it CAN be played in standard. he is just lacking a Big Muff (or even a properly adjusted Blues Driver) pedal and Rich's bass never sounded thick enough live.

 

And as much as Pat is a fantastic drummer ... something about the way Ian hits them in that song ... it's one of those songs that the band got right as THE BAND ... everything seemed out of wack in the other arrangement. but it's probably the flat tuning and lack of bad ass pedals.

[AnOceanPearl]

I really do enjoy playing bass along with the album version with the low Db note playing, it's tons of fun, and it's the arrangement that I definitely prefer, but hey, I'm not the one playing the songs live.

[finboy]

I think Fine Art is in Drop-D minus a half on Loser Anthems. That's at least how I figured out basslines to it *shrug*

its dagdad flat from what i can tell, i really hope whoever matt has playing guitar for this round has some nice dirt pedals that will get closer to the mgb sound

[AnOceanPearl]

This reminds me,I should put up my basstabs in the mgtabarchive wiki >.<

[noise_pollution]

its dagdad flat from what i can tell, i really hope whoever matt has playing guitar for this round has some nice dirt pedals that will get closer to the mgb sound

You are correct.

[thewickernightmare]

Back in the day, like early 2001, there was a bootleg (horrible quality) of Carmelina. Definitely the best live version I heard of it, even through all the static of the bootleg. The album version disappointed me at first actually because of it. I do like when Matt brings it out now though, even if it isn't quite the same.