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Does Anyone Else Think Some Of The Demos Which Were Cut From Loes Were Better Than Some Of The Ones Which Made It?

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Just my personal opinion, obviously. And it's Matthew's work, so he puts what he wants on his album, I'm not complaining about anything.

 

After listening repeatedly to:

For and against the same thing

We are a place

Die like kings

 

After listening to those songs I find that some of the songs which made the album (while good music) are less emotionally intense. Obviously different people like different things, and there's nothing wrong with that, and Matthew's tastes and style change over time. One person might like one song and dislike another, that's ok. But to me, these 3 songs have some punch to them that some songs on LoES were lacking.

 

Anyway, just my opinion and I wanted to see if anyone else shared it! Not putting the CD down as it's great, just curious!

 

Riley

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I really like For and Against, We Are a Place and Homecoming myself, but I can see why they were left off of the album. I remember asking Matt why "We Are a Place" was cut, and he said he felt Non Populus mopped the floor with it.

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Homecoming was something Matt screwed around with but was not all that serious about, until the idea for Shallows Low came about. They're basically the same song. Same structure. I remember telling Matt that it sounded like the live extended lyrics to SWW and soon after he made a post talking about originality. Basically saying even though there's nothing wrong with either pieces, he wanted to try and avoid similarities and go for something completely new sounding.

 

Homecoming sounds like it could be on a 3 track EP with "Breath Of A Nation" and "If I Were A Title Wave."

 

IMHO ;-)

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Die Like Kings

Hornets

 

 

These songs could've made the album with a total of 11 tracks, I think those tracks would've given LOES a boost. Despite those songs not making the album I still think LOES is Matt's best album right up there with Avalanche.

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We Are A Place should have been on the album, no doubt. I love the piano and the vocal harmony.

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I have no heard any of the demos so I'm not in the know.

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We Are A Place was going to be on the album and then MG wrote Non Populus and said that NP wiped the floor with WAAP hence WAAP was cut.

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I only heard the extended and in my opinion much better version of Hornets (6:06 as opposed to 3:58) 3 days ago and have not been able to stop listening to it. For me it is one of my favourite songs and I sincerely doubt that's just because its fresh for me; I thought the same of "Last Parade" when it was brand new (and when it was a demo known as Portrait of Artist in Jungle), and indeed it is still one of my top favourites.

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I missed out on the entire demoing phase for Lights of Endangered Species, but I would definitely be interested in hearing the demos, even the songs that made the album, just to see how they evolved. Sometimes, when I search Google for them, it'll return something interesting, like Hornets (Version 2) or Non Populus (Demo). I have the "Miscellaneous" compilation and now We Are a Place from a few posts below, but I sure would like to hear all of them in the best possible quality (which I know isn't high). Can they be uploaded somewhere? It would be like Christmas!

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Hornets is great I love the piano, but then again I'm a sucker for piano in rock/pop music (thanks Ben Folds)

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We Are A Place was going to be on the album and then MG wrote Non Populus and said that NP wiped the floor with WAAP hence WAAP was cut.

 

Doesn't make sense to me, they feel/sound like distinctly different songs to me.

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I love the 6 minute version of hornets. I love the piano and how it slowly starts and the entire feel of it.

 

Yeah couldn't agree more. Hornets is wonderful

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Now on a totally unrelated subject; in the lyrics section there's a song called "Dawn" but I have never heard of it. Its not on youtube or anything else I've browsed. Anyone know if/where I can hear it?

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It is just the end of the song Lights of Endangered Species I believe. It was originally released as a separate demo I think. I don't know if he had planned on it being its own song or not.

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Hi people!

 

Just realized my post was in the wrong thread. ^^

Edited by Litzi

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