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Anyone else here keeping up? Whether you are Canadian or American, I'm interested to hear opinions all around.

 

 

Me, I'm down here in Texas, as a Democrat (we exist!) and the husband and I have been watching in disbelief for the most part.

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I did Security when Trump was doing a rally in Vegas. I got to ride in an elevator with him and the owner of the property! That is my political story....

 

Anyway! I think Trump is an idiot. Just shoots his mouth off with no real plan in place but people eat it up. I am more democratic than anything, but none of the candidates (republican too) are grabbing my attention. I want to like Sanders but man... a little too liberal for me. Maybe if he had a detailed plan in place for all his promises I could be persuaded. I think Hilary has the best chance to be president if she is nominated just because she is more in the middle than Sanders.

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I'm Canadian, but I've always been fascinated with U.S. politics. 

I think, above anything else, the difference in the general level of decorum between the two parties' is jarring. The Democrats are having legitimate discussions about problems, with some gentle criticism now and then, and the Republicans are throwing feces at each other hoping it will stick. 

I'm biased and I'll admit that, but I don't really understand this theme of "restoring" America coming from the right. Restoring it to what, exactly? I could suggest a few examples of what that could mean, but most of it would involve undoing decades of Civil Rights legislation, Supreme Court cases and generally speaking, progress. 

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American politics is all about the buzz words and phrases and then building a whole campaign based on it. Like "Restoring American" or "Make America great again." I swear, if Trump gets elected I will seriously think about moving to Canada. Hopefully he won't build a huge wall on the Canadian border too. Ugh... I hate watching tv just because of the politics here.

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The way I see it. Hillary and Trump are the worst two choices, maybe even in that order. Trump for obvious reasons and Hillary because she is a fraud that has been purchased, completely devoid of principles, and can not in the slightest be trusted to have any real regard for the will of people.

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Honestly, I think Ted Cruz is the worst candidate. He's an ideologue with an Ivy League education that has no intention to compromise. Like Trump, he has extreme views, but coats them with coded words and half-hearted bluster. TL;DR Evangelical Hardliner bad for everyone.

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I like Sanders, he seems like the most stable of the bunch to be honest. I just think his extreme left views will be hard for many Americans to stand behind. He has a huge following though, but at this point it is about getting those undecided voters and I don't know if he could pull that off.

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I like Sanders, he seems like the most stable of the bunch to be honest. I just think his extreme left views will be hard for many Americans to stand behind. He has a huge following though, but at this point it is about getting those undecided voters and I don't know if he could pull that off.

I like Sanders also. He really didn't do himself any favors with the term democratic socialism, but I'm hoping people start to listen a little better to what he's actually saying.

 

I really don't care for Hillary. The idea of having a woman as president is exciting, but that doesn't mean I want it to be her. Her time has already passed, and I haven't heard any ideas for real change or policy improvements. I loved the idea of what Obamacare was supposed to be, but it never made it and needs to be fixed, in my opinion.

 

Cruz is terrifying, and obviously Trump is right there with him. Rubio wants to unite the country under God (head desk), and Bush is still trying to figure out what tge hell is going on around him. I still don't understand what Ben Carson is doing there but it's amusing that he always looks stoned as hell.

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I love me some Bernie Sanders. But I agree with the others in saying that his views aren't in line with a lot of Americans...or, they are, but I feel like he'll never get the chance to explain it because "democratic socialist" means "Pinko Bolshevik" to so many right wingers. I hope his message is able to resonate, but I have a fairly cynical view of the Republican Party. Even if Bernie wins the nomination and he runs against ___________________ , they're going to paint him as an extremist bent on turning the United States into the Soviet Union. 

Bernie is very eloquent in articulating his positions and he runs a pretty principled campaign. But this level of politics is a bloodsport, and regardless of how good his points may be, or how well he communicates them, the current crop of Republicans can all yell "fire" much louder than he can calmly (yet gruffly) explain why supply side economics is a bankrupt ideology. 

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Bernie is very eloquent in articulating his positions and he runs a pretty principled campaign. But this level of politics is a bloodsport, and regardless of how good his points may be, or how well he communicates them, the current crop of Republicans can all yell "fire" much louder than he can calmly (yet gruffly) explain why supply side economics is a bankrupt ideology. 

 

He may be an eloquent speaker with a great mind, and excellents ideas:  but is anybody listening?  The concern I have, which stems from reading and (I'll admit it) from speaking with my American friends and family members, is that the mindset in the U.S. is at such a boiling point that common sense is not making it through. 

 

There are several problems contributing to this, that I can see:

The school systems are supposed to teach kids to think, but they don't really, unless you are in a really good district with more left leaning thinkers who make a point of teaching kids HOW to think.  This has been going on for so many years that the majority of voters are going to be affected by this to some extent or another, in particular younger voters who are more likely to desire change.

 

The neoclassical economic ideal has run wild and free now for a couple of generations, grossly destabilising every form of state/national safety net for the people of the U.S., and widening income disparity.  This has lead to people having to work multiple jobs, in an effort to make ends meet.  How is anyone supposed to work constantly, raise empowered children, and keep abreast of international political systems, social justice & the manner in which their government falls waaaay short of the ideal, in an environment which offers no safety net should problems emerge (as they tend to do in life)?  It is impossible to see anything outside of one's own immediate sphere of experience, when living in a distressed state day in and day out.  The U.S. has set up, whether by art or by accident, an environment in which the base of political power is so unable to see their way clear of the day in and day out difficulties, that they can't do more than react.  They don't have the time, the energy, the understanding, or even the will to go through the process of understanding what these candidates actually mean when they start speaking.

 

Those are my current thoughts.  I'm sure I'll have more as time passes.

 

Oh yeah, and I'm voting to make Donald Drumpf again:  of that I am sure!

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Anyway! I think Trump is an idiot. Just shoots his mouth off with no real plan in place but people eat it up. I am more democratic than anything, but none of the candidates (republican too) are grabbing my attention. I want to like Sanders but man... a little too liberal for me. Maybe if he had a detailed plan in place for all his promises I could be persuaded. I think Hilary has the best chance to be president if she is nominated just because she is more in the middle than Sanders.

 

You were bang on about Sanders.  The polls showed he was going to get his butt kicked in the Southern states, which are more conservative leaning (even the Democrats), so his views just won't fly down there even among Democratic voters.  They've gone Hillary so far and there's really nothing Bernie can do about that minus scrapping much of his platform.  He wouldn't have the best shot vs Hillary in the general election.  Southern Americans just aren't ready for Bernie's ideas, which are status quo throughout virtually all other western countries.

 

Bernie's the only chance this election to help stop the BS and start really fixing that country that's headed for the toilet.  In 50 years Americans will look back and kick themselves that they didn't elect him.  Americans aren't ready for him, and that's a shame I think.  He's the first major U.S POTUS candidate in my entire lifetime I've ever put my full support behind (for what it's worth)

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What do you guys think of Sanders? I read Matt was impressed with him.

 

I'm going to miss Obama though. I thought he was awesome.`

 

Obama is okay.  Social domestic policy is a bit progressive.  He's a bitch to the system though,.   He's not W. Bush but he still disregards international law (drones etc).  He's a great actor, and makes great speeches, though a lot of it is just bullsh!t.  He's a smart politician.

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i, for one, welcome our orange overlord

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