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Being that it will be about 4 months between the coming shows and the last show, would be cool if during his downtime over the summer he dusted up and worked on a few uncommon or even something never played live before songs from the past to debut. 

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On 10/9/2022 at 10:28 AM, Stwlegend said:

Being that it will be about 4 months between the coming shows and the last show, would be cool if during his downtime over the summer he dusted up and worked on a few uncommon or even something never played live before songs from the past to debut. 

I was actually coming in here to post that he made a post that he is practicing "One of them years" He also replied to a post that his catalog of music is so large that he can't remember how to play half of it.    

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13 hours ago, foats said:

he has bee

He has been posting pretty regularly on his social media accounts. 

Did he by chance erase them all and restart new ones? I feel like it's my first day on the internet. There's an official-ish looking one on instagram, but it only has a couple posts from last year. Can I grab a link?

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The MG Team on Matthew Good’s Facebook page sure like to scrub clean any concert reviews that have even the slightest hint of negativity. They are 100% glowing reviews!! It seems totally fake. It’s kind of pathetic… whatever.

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All I know is people do a bad job of writing concert reviews on Facebook. A lady didn’t even bother to pay attention to what Matt was saying at the Nanaimo concert before posting accusations on his page. It ended up spreading false information all over the internet. I learned a huge lesson. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

I never thought I’d see the day when Matthew Good would be trending on Google. That’s a first.

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I heard about Nanimo but you had mentioned negative reviews prior to the Nanimo show and the MG team scrubbing them. Just curious to what the other negatives were? I have been checking setlist.fm but only one set has been posted so far. Curious to what has been going on at the shows.

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Matt obviously wants to fuck up what little of a career he has left. Pretty outrageous stuff regardless of your opinion. Joke or not, it was not funny. Almost as bad as when I saw him at Joe's Pub in NYC back in 2013 and he asked the audience something along the lines of "Aren't you people sick and tired of hearing about 911 this and 911 that". Crowd did not exactly appreciate that a few blocks from where it happened. For being as talented of a musician and lyricist, the guy is a nut. 

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On 10/25/2022 at 10:53 AM, GuitarmanMCS said:

 

Matt obviously wants to fuck up what little of a career he has left. Pretty outrageous stuff regardless of your opinion. Joke or not, it was not funny. Almost as bad as when I saw him at Joe's Pub in NYC back in 2013 and he asked the audience something along the lines of "Aren't you people sick and tired of hearing about 911 this and 911 that". Crowd did not exactly appreciate that a few blocks from where it happened. For being as talented of a musician and lyricist, the guy is a nut. 

Since the video has been flagged for defamation and is no longer available on Youtube, I won't share the one that exists else where online, but for those wondering what the controversy was about, there is an article here where Matt clarifies his opinion on the matter. On his Facebook page he also wrote the following:

"It is time for me to make a statement. Let me make this very clear - my recent comments on stage in Nanaimo had to do with the subject of tyranny, and at no time did I mention unvaccinated people or vaccines. I don’t even know where that came from. I would never argue that a person does not have the right to govern their own body" 

I guess the main subject being addressed was whether or not some of the actions/decisions of Canada's current Liberal government during the pandemic (such as denying people E.I who were fired from their jobs for not trusting the Covid vaccines or who had their section 6 charter rights/freedoms violated through the denial of their ability to leave Canada if unvaccinated) could be classified as "tyrannical". Matt said he'd like to drop people who think so off in the Congo where "14 year olds can fire AK-47s at themso they could have an idea of what a real tyranny was like. Someone who posted the original video online interpreted this to mean unvaccinated people in general. 

For my part, it's an interesting subject and I have heard the opinion that Matt expressed, expressed by others in the past, so it's not exactly new. However, respectfully, even as someone who is double vaccinated, I do strongly disagree with that opinion and him.   

While it's true that Justin Trudeau's government is obviously not comparable to that of the governments of the DRC or Uganda- or the gangs that populate those countries- (and I personally do not think Trudeau is evil- only terribly misguided and unfortunately ideological) two wrongs still do not make a right. For example, just because my friend was only stabbed in the leg- while I was stabbed in the back- does not mean that my worse injury cancels the freedom my friend has to point out that any kind of stabbing or violence is wrong. Likewise, the more any government any where is allowed to get away with violating the rights or freedoms of its citizens (minor or major) the more it most likely will try to do the same in the future (regardless of whether one chooses to classify it as a tyranny or elsewise). As such, while I absolutely do not condone idiots protesting in front of hospitals (which I believe were the people Matt was mainly referring to) I don't think the majority of people who disagreed with the actions of Trudeau's government fit into the category of people Matt was talking about. Likewise, even if people do make bad points or act in a childish way when expressing themselves politically- and even though I despise people who take things too seriously- I don't think it's great posture to say or even joke that anyone deserves to be shot at for their opinions. If that were the case a lot of us (myself, Matt, and others) might be not be here today because at times we all get tripped up by our own biases and swept up by group think or mob mentality. Don't get me wrong, I understand his point- there are definitely worse places to exist and live- but again, one wrong does not cancel another out, regardless of what kind of wrong it is. 

All that said, I would have liked to have seen the full video so I could have gotten the full context of what he was saying, because it was admittedly cut off before he finished speaking. 

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19 hours ago, daniel_v said:

Since the video has been flagged for defamation and is no longer available on Youtube, I won't share the one that exists else where online, but for those wondering what the controversy was about, there is an article here where Matt clarifies his opinion on the matter. On his Facebook page he also wrote the following:

"It is time for me to make a statement. Let me make this very clear - my recent comments on stage in Nanaimo had to do with the subject of tyranny, and at no time did I mention unvaccinated people or vaccines. I don’t even know where that came from. I would never argue that a person does not have the right to govern their own body" 

I guess the main subject being addressed was whether or not some of the actions/decisions of Canada's current Liberal government during the pandemic (such as denying people E.I who were fired from their jobs for not trusting the Covid vaccines or who had their section 6 charter rights/freedoms violated through the denial of their ability to leave Canada if unvaccinated) could be classified as "tyrannical". Matt said he'd like to drop people who think so off in the Congo where "14 year olds can fire AK-47s at themso they could have an idea of what a real tyranny was like. Someone who posted the original video online interpreted this to mean unvaccinated people in general. 

For my part, it's an interesting subject and I have heard the opinion that Matt expressed, expressed by others in the past, so it's not exactly new. However, respectfully, even as someone who is double vaccinated, I do strongly disagree with that opinion and him.   

While it's true that Justin Trudeau's government is obviously not comparable to that of the governments of the DRC or Uganda- or the gangs that populate those countries- (and I personally do not think Trudeau is evil- only terribly misguided and unfortunately ideological) two wrongs still do not make a right. For example, just because my friend was only stabbed in the leg- while I was stabbed in the back- does not mean that my worse injury cancels the freedom my friend has to point out that any kind of stabbing or violence is wrong. Likewise, the more any government any where is allowed to get away with violating the rights or freedoms of its citizens (minor or major) the more it most likely will try to do the same in the future (regardless of whether one chooses to classify it as a tyranny or elsewise). As such, while I absolutely do not condone idiots protesting in front of hospitals (which I believe were the people Matt was mainly referring to) I don't think the majority of people who disagreed with the actions of Trudeau's government fit into the category of people Matt was talking about. 

All that said, I would have liked to have seen the full video so I could have gotten the full context of what he was saying, because it was admittedly cut off before he finished speaking. 

As are most of you probably, I am a long time fan. Being from the US, I have seen him three times here and also traveled to Canada to see him. Soo....big fan here. Lots of money and time dedicated to him as well as the other people I have turned on to his music down here. 

This seems to be a reoccurring pattern for him. Seems he totally fits the liberal stereotype of taking down any criticism. Hell a few years ago I made a comment that he was shitfaced at the NYC concert I went to. AND HE WAS. It was a great show, I was not saying he is a drunk and I want my money back, just that he was drunk and it got a bit sloppy at the end. Drinking whiskey for three hours straight tends to do that. I was banned from the Facebook page. LOL. Whatever. 

It's just getting harder to defend him. I did not really care to be honest about his past issues with his lovers. I love his music. Whatever f-ed up stuff he does and has done in her personal life is his problem. But as someone who definitely leans further right than left, to say that people saying their government is tyrannical should be flown to the Congo and shot is just unbelievably stupid. Canada did get nuts during COVID and the aftermath and so did the USA. And right or left, you have the right to say when you think your government is wrong. So saying people should be shot for exercising their free speech is ridiculous. I don't think he meant it. But it is still extremely irresponsible. He comes across like a loose cannon. I am sure his mental health plays into it. As I said in my previous post, he asked a bunch of New Yorkers, at a shower in lower Manhattan, a few blocks away from the Trade towers if they are not sick and tired of 9/11 being the reason for this and that. The crowd shut his ass down and booed and said "no we are not". Needless to say he did not expect that reaction and shut his mouth pretty quick and played whatever was next on his setlist. Just incredibly stupid shut to say.

Now it is 2022 and the dust has started to settle on the sexual stuff from earlier. Again, I don't support cancel culture so I felt everything was a bit extreme. But an artist I care about seems to be given a second chance. His career was decimated and he stood a fighting chance to get it back...at least some of it. Why would one not play it safe and keep controversial shit out of the show? Save it until 2024 when you are back playing Massey Hall instead of tiny venues (joking). But seriously, it's almost like he has no interest in saving his career and does not care about pissing whatever fan base he has left. That's his right. But it is incredibly stupid.

 

 

 

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It was just a bad, bad take by Matt.  We know Canada isn't the DRC.  But Canada has a government that announced DURING AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN that all federal public servants, meaning hundreds of thousands of Canadians across the country, were required to get vaxxed or else be put in indefinite leave without pay even if they still worked full-time from home and have never been to their office since the start of the pandemic.  They recently dropped the requirement, but a lot of fed departments are still working from home full-time so a lot of people were coerced to jab a f**king needle in their arm and inject medicine for nothing or else lose their livelihood.  These people have families and mortgages to pay for.  And all Matt's faithful sheep followers yelling "Yeah!".

I'm fully vaxxed, I believe in science, but nobody tells me what medical procedures I need to undergo or what medicine I inject inside my own body, so if I worked for the feds i'd be PO'd.  Even if they worked in the office, nobody gets to coerce someone else to take medicine to make someone else safer.  If you don't feel safe, stay home or quit.  When your basic human rights and liberties are taken from you yeah that's tyranny.

Yeah you don't block ER doors & border bridges to protest, but these kinds of smug entitled self-righteous comments can go right up their arses. 

 

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I just wish he would come back and play in Sault Ste Marie. I had tickets for his show before COVID hit which got cancelled. I haven't seen him since 2017 in Sarnia. It would be nice to be able to see a show.  Both Daniel and Guitarman are 100% correct in my books.  I've commented on him drinking during shows in the past (He seems kind of tipsy on his Massy Hall album) and even made a comment during his internet show about going "backwards into a wall of bourbon" when he was singing Strange Days (Just joking around of course).  But yeah, the world has changed a lot in the past 10 years since he was touring more heavily. He should probably be careful about making political comments.  Unless they are pro Conservative, then thats ok.... lol. (Joke)

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On 10/25/2022 at 12:53 PM, GuitarmanMCS said:

 

Matt obviously wants to fuck up what little of a career he has left. Pretty outrageous stuff regardless of your opinion. Joke or not, it was not funny. Almost as bad as when I saw him at Joe's Pub in NYC back in 2013 and he asked the audience something along the lines of "Aren't you people sick and tired of hearing about 911 this and 911 that". Crowd did not exactly appreciate that a few blocks from where it happened. For being as talented of a musician and lyricist, the guy is a nut. 

I was at the Joe's Pub show in 2013 and I have a different recollection of that bit. I remember him asking who in the audience was actually from NYC, born and raised, and how they felt about 9/11 as compared to everyone else who largely witnessed it from afar / on TV. He was making some point, but I don't recall that there was anything he said that was overtly offensive.

As far as whatever he said at that concert recently, having not heard a word of it, I would just say I'm surprised he would feel the need to talk about that kind of stuff at a live show in 2022 when nobody asked and given his recent hiatus. I would think he'd want to just lay low and show extra appreciation to the people coming out to support him. Also, most people don't attend concerts to listen to that kind of stuff.

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Solo acoustic shows are not where you go if you want to avoid Matt going off on political tangents. This is a man who brought out a white board once to talk about North Korea. Most of us have been following the guy for a couple decades now... I'm unsure any of this is far off brand. 

As for the comments, I think it goes to show all over the political spectrum people are pretty raw and sensitive. The comments he made are dramatically aggressive, but also pretty benign compared to actual problems. If you think Canada is tyrannical, you could use a recalibration or a new word. 

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6 hours ago, russic said:

Solo acoustic shows are not where you go if you want to avoid Matt going off on political tangents. This is a man who brought out a white board once to talk about North Korea. Most of us have been following the guy for a couple decades now... I'm unsure any of this is far off brand. 

As for the comments, I think it goes to show all over the political spectrum people are pretty raw and sensitive. The comments he made are dramatically aggressive, but also pretty benign compared to actual problems. If you think Canada is tyrannical, you could use a recalibration or a new word. 

Remember back in the day when you had to recalibrate your joystick whenever you wanted to use it on a PC? lol

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I'll be that nerd that switches it back to the music a bit.  I think a lot of negativities would dissipate or be drowned out if there was some excitement on the show or studio front.  Because we are all fans, that's why we come here or go to the shows. But I have heard the word 'uninspired" used for recent shows, or how he can't remember how to play a lot of his catalog so doesn't play it, or that setlists are stale.

Could you imagine if he announced for 2023 a 20th anniversary tour of Avalanche, maybe a reissue of the album with it, or playing the album in full.  Or played rarities from Underdogs for that 25th anniversary or did a reimaged Underdogs like he did for BM?  Or if you want to move away from nostalgia, a new album, maybe something upbeat and full band/electric that can release some of the anger over the past few years.  Might even cause him to adjust his banter with more to talk about on the music end of things.

I'm sure there's a lot more going on that I don't know, but from a fan perspective with no inner working knowledge, just thought I would throw that POV out there. No matter where you stand on the outside of music stuff, there really isn't much else to focus on so that negativity seems to rise to the top of conversation.

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I noticed that Matt didn’t post his usual “Thank you so much to the fine folks in Charlottetown last night!” message the day after the concert on his Facebook. I wonder if something went down. Maybe they had a rowdy crowd at the show. I saw that the majority of the posts were removed in the Charlottetown concert thread. I hope there is a good vibe at the Alberta shows.

edit: I read he was taken away in an ambulance before the show tonight. I hope he feels better soon.

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I jus read that a few more shows were cancelled and that Matt was admitted to the hospital in critical condition.  I don't have facebook so can anyone confirm or deny this?~  Sucks that the official webpage doesn't have any info about it.  Praying that Matt is ok. 

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On 11/25/2022 at 7:32 PM, foats said:

I jus read that a few more shows were cancelled and that Matt was admitted to the hospital in critical condition.  I don't have facebook so can anyone confirm or deny this?~  Sucks that the official webpage doesn't have any info about it.  Praying that Matt is ok. 

I too hope and pray he’s okay. But I have to say, that whole you have to be vaccinated and if you bitch about it you should be sent to the Congo and shot by teenagers with AK47s shit didn’t age well did it. Geez. Sounds like that jab didn’t do shit for him…just like most of us who bought into the hype.

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