Us Adapts Torture Policies

[frustrated inc.]

Background:

 

The US has a naval base (Guantanamo Bay) in Cuba, where they are currently detaining 550 "enemy combatants" (read P.O.W.).

 

The Details:

 

Some prisioners have tried filing lawsuits against the US goverment for being detained at Guantanamo Bay for as long as three years, based solely on evidence induced by torture, and without any charges being laid, or trial.

 

Recently at a district court, a US military panel fought to have a 70-year old supreme court decision overturnerd and won. While the act of torture itself remains illegal, evidence gained from torture is admissible in militant courts, and can be used to decide to hold prisoners in Cuba indefinatly.

 

The Rationale:

 

Boyle (The Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General who fought for the american right to use torture evidence) said that the United States never would adopt a policy that would have barred it from acting on evidence that could have prevented the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks even if the data came from questionable practices like torture.

[ToadMan]

"Just another fucked up reason

for selling off some freedom

that was never free"

 

As slowly the united states chips away at human rights around the world.

 

Peace

[Claire]

The Pentagone now uses the words "extreme questioning" instead of "torture". - L'Actualité, December 2004 -

 

Words. Changing them does not change their repercussions.

[ok_go_570]

kinda like changeing "Genocide" to "Ethnic Cleansing"...

[Devil On Rollerskates]

Or saying "collateral damage" instead of saying "killing civilians".

[Tati]

What else is new? All I can do is shake my head.

[ToadMan]

"Would a rose by any other name still smell as sweet?"

 

Would torture, genocide, and killing of the innocent be any less rotten by any other name? Apparently if you run the US government PR department yes.

 

Peace

[Tati]

Well said, Jon.

I cannot believe how people buy into the pr crap. Just too lazy to think? Or do they have such hatred in their hearts they love to see their government torturing people?

[ToadMan]

You can encode people to hate anything. For years the americans had a fear of "the black man". Now it's fear of "the middle eastern man".

 

Changing how we word something is a common practice in rationalization. The US government will rationalize the torture. Unfortunately many americans will accept that rationalization.

 

Peace

[cavalier_eternal]

there's a word for that. it's called a euphemism.

 

still, that is horrendously disgusting.

 

and because i can...

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[Yas]

[arabic talking: God Forbid us from the devil]

Let me introduce myself my name's Yassim.

Been a muslim my whole life and I ain't never met no terrorist.

Why would I watch tv? All they do is try to embarrass us.

Nine eleven was disasterous. Fuck those devil advocates.

My religion is peace love and happiness.

This shock cannot be televised for free.

'cuz bright lights and dead bodies make for great TV.

The world is panicking, Mr Bush is mad again.

Watching them bombs drop, makes me sick to my abdomen.

What doesn't kill you can only make you strong.

Then I feel like I'm carrying the weight of the world with one arm.

When bombs are being dropped from planes, media affects our brains,

remember it's innocent children being slain.

And I'm feeling their pain and their bloodshed

How many more will end up dead?

My brother Mohhamed cant get through customs.

Harrased and spit upon, the price for being muslim.

Fuck your sympathy, don't look at me differently.

Don't repeat history. War is hate. Salam.

 

[bif Naked - Arabic]

"peace and blessings on to you"

 

[Yas]

In this day and age it's rage and life destruction.

Lyposuction and breast implants, like a Hollywood star

with her lips and chest enhanced.

It's just plastic surgery for the less advanced.

White lies, great for religion, sex, and churches.

Politicians sniffing white lies behind closed curtains.

Overpaid athletes stick steroids in ass cheeks.

Million dollar salaries depend on players that cheat.

The young and homeless live amongst the trash heeps.

last week's news is forgotten, dead stiff and rotten,

like the corpse of Andy Hoffman.

They say peace sells, but who's buying? I say sex sells.

In these days and times, the public loves it,

they can't get enough of it, anything else says rubbish.

Mp3s and burnt cds, lead us to believe that music is now free.

The industry's in a panic, major labels running frantic.

World's best mechanic couldn't fix it.

Empty seats means kids can't afford a ticket, and it's a problem.

Like teenaged love without a condom.

 

[bif Naked - Arabic]

"peace and blessings on to you"

 

Dead Celebrity Status - In This Day and Age

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yeah, so some of you don't like rap. keep an open mind. this is actually good rap, imho.

 

so is sage francis.