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Go team! (Team Canada and Team Gay Marriage is Cool) Am I the only person who thinks that all of this is so simple yet it's made to seem like such a big deal. Two adults can legally wed, and a religious leader can't be forced to do something against their religion. The fact that people find a need to make this written law is sad, it seems to me like common sense.

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Wow, Mark Morford sure is a douchebag.

 

 

EDIT= True dat, RWWBK!! It shouldn't even be an issue. Homosexuals are people too, why shouldn't they have equal rights?

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I've always been of the opinion that this should have never been an issue to start with. People should be free to marry whom ever they please, and if that means you want to marry a goat, then so be it. I'm not sure if anyone really wants to marry a goat, but that is generally the rebutal from the neo conservative side. "If you let the gays marry, then who's to say someone won't want to marry a goat next?" I've always liked that one best. I'm definitely proud to be in a country that is seemingly pushing ahead with resolving this is issue, or at least open to discussing the idea, unlike "ahem", some countries to the South of us. And if you are going to debate it, then at least come up with something better than "it's destroying the sanctity of tradional marriage". All one needs to do to dispute this is take a gander at the Bible. There are plenty of stories in it that make that whole defence crumble. Everybody and their handmaids were a romping, and lets not forget about Noah and his daughters, mmm hmmm! I find it quite humorous as well that divorce and adultry rates are highest in the States where conservative, evangelical, fundamentalist christian values are strongest (ie: the Red States) Preach on good reverend! Thou shalt follow thee to whore houses and strip clubs nation wide. But no gays allowed. They ruin everything.

-Troy-

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You know what i say to these conservative foo's? "How does this hurt you." Of course they fluster up like roosters, and spurt out a sentence with the the words 'Sanctity' and 'tradition.' The traditional definition of marriage is Man and Wife for Life. we changed it cuz life doesn't work. Do conservatives want to go back to the real traditional definition?

 

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I also have to agree with the whole "sanctity of marriage" thing. It's total BS. I don't know how anyone can think that a gay marriage won't be as strong as a straight marriage, it's ridiculous.

 

Besides, how can you take the sanctity of marriage defense seriously when one of the world's greatest role models, Britney Spears, gets married for only a few hours. That's better than a gay marriage?

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Proud to be Canadian = wants to be American

Maybe this was brought up, i just skimmed most of the replies, but...

 

Canadians are Americans, so saying that Canadians want to be Americans is... wrong... becuase they are.

Yeah, I think the post you're refering too was a joke.

 

And you'r post just doesn't make any sense. If it's a joke, then it sure doesn't come across that way. But if you are indeed serious, we're all in a lot more trouble than we thought.

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I think perhaps the intent was to convey a dissatisfaction with referring to the United States of America as simply America. America = North America + South America (according to this argument), so referring to citizens of the US as American is acknowledging that they are superior and the others are inferior.

 

Disclaimer: I personally am not a proponent of this argument. I'm also only guessing this is what wentwj68 was suggesting.

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Canada has become one of the very few countries in the world who has accepted gay marriages at the same level as heterosexual marriages

 

in Europe only two countries (Belgium and Sweden) accept these kinda marriages... and in some months, probably June or July 2005, Spain will be doing the same: the lefty government in my country has already prepared a law which will be passed in the Parliament in the following weeks and will be effective before the summer which will allow gay marriages and adoption with the same rights than heterosexual marriages and adoptions

 

I also feel proud of being a Spaniard for such decisions, decisions which worry about social demands and about all inviduals to be equal... one lil but very important step for equal human rights

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That's great to hear, I hope more countries follow suit very soon. Although to think that it will happen in the US anytime soon on a national level is laughable. When your leader is openly against it and just the act of being gay is still illegal in some states? Long way off, perhaps when they discover the wheel and fire.

 

And with regards to this terminaology of what America means? If someone's just trying to nitpick at words, that's just silly. America is a term used to describe the US all the time, by Americans and the rest of the world alike. Should is be? Probably not since several other countries consist of the America's. But it's the way the word is often used in everyday speech. I was using it in everyday speech. Hopefully you'll have something better to contribute next time than just picking apart my words.

 

But if you meant something else then I'd love to hear it. ;)

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I find this argument a useless waste of time. If two people love each other and want to marry then so be it. But unfortunately, people seem to want to live in the dark ages.

 

On the news just now was a segment about this child who is being abused and used for pornography, and I think it's been going on for a few years now. Pictures of her have been found in an alarming number of child pornography cases. This is something that needs to be addressed.

 

Not two people in love who happen to be of the same sex.

 

..And I must admit, I am glad to see so many people on here voicing such open minded opinions.

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Excellent point moe. There are a million other issues throughout the world that need the same amount of attention as same sex marriage. Hopefully people will soon realize this and focus their energies on something that might actually do some good instead of trying to disrupt the rights and freedoms of two people who love each. It is nice to see that some states in the U.S. are starting to take the steps, but when your President is dead set on stopping the progression of love and hell bent on promoting intolerence and indifference amongst the citizens of the country, then that seems like a long, scary road to travel down.

-Troy-

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So what if marriage is just a religious title? I know gay people who are religious. Why should they be denied the title of marriage? Whether it's simply a title or not, it still isn't fair to deny some people that.

 

Plus, and I'm not entirely sure here, but I believe there is more of a difference between marriage and civil unions that just the terminology. I believe people are entitled to more if they're actually married. Something about taxes and insurance claims and all that stuff. But I don't feel like looking for proof right now.

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So what if marriage is just a religious title?  I know gay people who are religious.  Why should they be denied the title of marriage?  Whether it's simply a title or not, it still isn't fair to deny some people that.

Assuming they're of a religion they know is against homosexuallity, besides being walking irony, they shouldn't even be allowed to be of that religion.

 

Plus, and I'm not entirely sure here, but I believe there is more of a difference between marriage and civil unions that just the terminology.  I believe people are entitled to more if they're actually married.  Something about taxes and insurance claims and all that stuff.  But I don't feel like looking for proof right now.

In some [fundamental] countries, yes. This needs to be corrected.

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So what if marriage is just a religious title? I know gay people who are religious. Why should they be denied the title of marriage? Whether it's simply a title or not, it still isn't fair to deny some people that.

 

Plus, and I'm not entirely sure here, but I believe there is more of a difference between marriage and civil unions that just the terminology. I believe people are entitled to more if they're actually married. Something about taxes and insurance claims and all that stuff. But I don't feel like looking for proof right now.

There's civil marriage and religious marriage. If gays want a religious marraige, that's between them and their church. But any two people should legally be allowed to get married in a civil ceremony.

 

As far as I'm aware, civil unions and marriage are the same thing and give people the same benefits. I think the wording is just different to appease religious people.

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