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If I Was A Tidal Wave

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mrjones

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I think he stole it from Wintersleep.

 

"I'll be a tidal wave, when I grow up, crashing on harbours."

 

But its okay, as good as Matt's song is, it doesn't stand up to Orca by Wintersleep.

I don't really think it has anything to do with Orca. You're right, it's a better song. But to me, its lyrics have no political meaning.

 

One thing I have always enjoyed about Matt is his music has meaning, it's deep and he writes what he wants. I was actually surprised when he started writing simple love songs, although he does them well too. If it's good music, and what he wants to do, he can write about politics all he wants, it doesn't bother me.

Yeah, sorry, sarcasm just doesn't show up well on the net. ;)

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Monochrome Rainbow

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I've always wondered why Matt new made more political songs since he's obsessed with it, but now we're seeing more. In a World Called Catastrophe, Alert Status Red, and now demos like Black Helicopter & this song. Beautiful songs with a great message attached.

Like 80% of WLRRR is very political.

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Emu

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can someone with more guitar skills than me try and figure out how this is played?

I've only listened to it once, but this sounds kind of close: Standard tuning, capo first fret. C B Am G

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Jared D

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i only listened to it once ,and i hated it,hurts me to say that but its true,he must hav wanted to be less metaphorical

or put out somethin less then good,so we remember hes just human,and not a rock god robot.next

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that is why Matt is an artist and other people are just musicians, or bands or groups,i guess if you don't like it don't listen, matt's gonna write whatever suits him, whether anyone likes it or not, as far as being a fan or politics, i don't like to wake up either and hear that x amount people have died because of US foreign policy, but thats whats going on, ignoring it makes us part of the problem, to be honest, and i'm gonna go a little off topic, most arists who "go political" never really seem to gain fans because of their views, sometimes, but rarely do they sell more records because of it, saying anything important is always a risk, which is awful i think, there should be more artists that write with global issues in mind,

 

and i don't see how writing rock songs like the band is going off and expanding, and most artists don't write political songs, most artists write love songs to tell you the truth, with the exception of bob dylan, steve earle, rage, system, nofx and a couple others, few artists have written a lot of politically influenced work lately

 

Selina hit it right on the mark

Everyone's gotta listen the first time. Making a generic "don't listen" comment is totally baseless. X amount of people died because y amount of people killed them. Papers and lectures didn't kill them. In general I would doubt that US soldiers wonder around the streets looking to kill people. Does it make it right that we are intervening in soviergn countries affairs? Personally no it doesn't we should leave peoples busniess to themselves. But to blame the worlds problems on US policy is putting a blanket over a river. Is it US foriegn policy that caused the Isreali's to invade Lebanon. Was it US foriegn policy that caused communisum? That caused the kymer rouge? Don't get me wrong the US polictal engine is self servering not even for it's own country but personal interests.

 

Next point...Why in the begining is MG an artist for writing how he feels and that we shouldn't listen if we dont approve. but then at the end here you saying that people should be writing about specific ideas on a global scale. To me that seems like they would then be robots instead of artists. If an "artist" doesn't feel motivated by political issues but he writes about them wouldn't that undermind the whole idea?

 

 

 

back to the song:

The music is really really nice and chorus is cool pushing the boundries of being a poppy cliche while stilling being catchy and thoughful. I love the acoutic approach he's taking. The rest of the lyrics are over the top politcal rhetoric. So bold and direct, it's written itself right out of current event clippings. It's not art it's cut and paste. It's not artistic it sounds like some "under the influence" college kids whining outside class.

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no yu begin wher i end

no yu begin wher i end

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Is it US foriegn policy that caused the Isreali's to invade Lebanon. Was it US foriegn policy that caused communisum? That caused the kymer rouge?

Actually, you could probably argue that US policy caused all three of those...

 

PS: if by communism you mean the Cold War, that is.

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Is it  US foriegn policy that caused the Isreali's to invade Lebanon.    Was it US foriegn policy that caused communisum? That caused the khmer rouge?

Actually, you could probably argue that US policy caused all three of those...

 

PS: if by communism you mean the Cold War, that is.

I really don't want to debate the finer points of why things happen, especially on this part of the board so this will be my final post. If someone wants to tell me how stupid and foolish I am for not running around wanting to blame the world's problems on the big brother pm me.

 

How in the world did the US cause the cold war? if you mean by not dummying up and letting Russia turn into a 20th century imperealist nation. Which to a certain degree they did anyway, also to a much lesser degree the US has done as well. Secondly on that point what world power was the US during the Russian revolution? Lenin certainly didn't have anything to do with America. The Cold War wasn't just America V Russia it was Democracy V Socialism. Other countries might not have factored into it as much but were just as involved. What do you think happens if America says hmm..were going to not involve outselves with this "russian, commie problem" It goes away? A war ravged Europe would have countered the biggest country in the world at the time? You might not be speaking Russian but you might not be voting against the guy that raised your taxes w/o risking your life.

 

Khmer rouge - I have a very limited knowledge of, but if you want to blame the US for not taking Pol Pot out then how could you justify being upset at US foriegn policy now in Iraq, or even mention it in regards to anything else. You can't pick and choose when a country should topple dictators or influence actions to benefit a populace. Beyond that the whole group of people in power were based on communism.

 

In what way has the US influenced Islamic extremist to fire onto Isreal? By inventing the country after WW2? That would be a HUGE stretch. By giving them aid of the last decades? Again huge stretch. By being in Iraq? Now that might not help matters but if they(hezbollah/whomever) were really that upset then they could concentrate on the prime American soldiers there instead of randomly rocketing towns in Isreal. Your talking about an enraged people that have been for centurys, long before the problem child America. They hate jewish people top to bottom and openly want to wipe them off the face of the earth. There no drawing comparisions between the US foriegn policy and blowing up a bus with dynamite straped to your body. There is no way to blame someone else for doing that.

 

 

As the most influencal force the US is forced into an opinion or reaction in almost every global issue. Just as Britan or Rome or whomever has before and just as some other country will have to be someday in the future.

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i_the_throw_away

i_the_throw_away

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I missed the track on myspace but thankfully the NF store had it....I really like it....great way to raise awareness in a world where a lot of people are self-centered and revolve their lives around trends and celebrities, many people don't even give a second thought to the innocent, suffering people around the world.

 

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that is why Matt is an artist and other people are just musicians, or bands or groups,i guess if you don't like it don't listen, matt's gonna write whatever suits him, whether anyone likes it or not, as far as being a fan or politics, i don't like to wake up either and hear that x amount people have died because of US foreign policy, but thats whats going on, ignoring it makes us part of the problem, to be honest, and i'm gonna go a little off topic, most arists who "go political" never really seem to gain fans because of their views, sometimes, but rarely do they sell more records because of it, saying anything important is always a risk, which is awful i think, there should be more artists that write with global issues in mind,

 

and i don't see how writing rock songs like the band is going off and expanding, and most artists don't write political songs, most artists write love songs to tell you the truth, with the exception of bob dylan, steve earle, rage, system, nofx and a couple others, few artists have written a lot of politically influenced work lately

 

Selina hit it right on the mark

Everyone's gotta listen the first time. Making a generic "don't listen" comment is totally baseless. X amount of people died because y amount of people killed them. Papers and lectures didn't kill them. In general I would doubt that US soldiers wonder around the streets looking to kill people. Does it make it right that we are intervening in soviergn countries affairs? Personally no it doesn't we should leave peoples busniess to themselves. But to blame the worlds problems on US policy is putting a blanket over a river. Is it US foriegn policy that caused the Isreali's to invade Lebanon. Was it US foriegn policy that caused communisum? That caused the kymer rouge? Don't get me wrong the US polictal engine is self servering not even for it's own country but personal interests.

 

Next point...Why in the begining is MG an artist for writing how he feels and that we shouldn't listen if we dont approve. but then at the end here you saying that people should be writing about specific ideas on a global scale. To me that seems like they would then be robots instead of artists. If an "artist" doesn't feel motivated by political issues but he writes about them wouldn't that undermind the whole idea?

 

back to the song:

The music is really really nice and chorus is cool pushing the boundries of being a poppy cliche while stilling being catchy and thoughful. I love the acoutic approach he's taking. The rest of the lyrics are over the top politcal rhetoric. So bold and direct, it's written itself right out of current event clippings. It's not art it's cut and paste. It's not artistic it sounds like some "under the influence" college kids whining outside class.

 

 

 

i never blamed all the worlds problems on the US, it was merely an example of one sort of problem occurring today, i never said don't listen to Matt, i think everyone should to be quite honest, what i said was if you don't like it, fine but don't be angry for him switching gears and not making beautiful midnight II. And for the record, if you don't realize that the majority of violent conflict of the last 50 years are not to blame on US administrations and the power structure of the corporate class existing in the US, then you are seriously misinformed. I'm not talking about your average US citizen or soldier, i'm talking about the people who act without the consent of the majority of the population. Don't confuse the government with the people. I do think more people should write socially concious music, becausei feel it's important. I'm not going to blast people that don't or say that they aren't artists, that's totally unfair, Wilco and Jeff Buckley (RIP) are perhaps two of my favourite artists and they have nto released anythign overtly political. The context in which i was referring to Matt as an artist is that he made a decision to change his art and didn't go back to what sells because it wasn't as well recieved, and that he is very impassioned about what he is doing. On this point:

 

If an "artist" doesn't feel motivated by political issues but he writes about them wouldn't that undermind the whole idea?

 

i agree wholeheartedly, don't write about what you don't get,understand, know or feel passionate about. But that said, i think some people may shy away from opening their mouths and raising questions because they don't want to make trouble, and also some may have no idea what they are talking about and use it to sell records (sometimes I wonder about Chris Martin, though i think he's an excellent songwriter). Everyone doesn't have to be Rage Against the Machine, but that doesn't mean things can't be changed through music, film or an other artistic medium people choose to express themselves with. As this isn't a foreign policy forum, i will not delve into the kind of problems i discussed earlier.

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hum-an-ole

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You guys are quick. I keep missing all the demos and I'm online constantly, I don't get it. I was away on vacation for a week though with no connection.

 

I don't get all the comments about this song being outdated. These issues will be part of history forever...making it relevant always... I think it's brilliant.

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