If Ww3 Were Declared Right Now

[Crusader]

State....s, United.

[Lauren]

 

we must remember that people are needed here too. my grandfather wasn't allowed to go to war because he worked at a rubber manufacturing place. but if the forces want a weak vegetarian that faints without warning, they can have me. i wouldn't make boot camp.

[supercanuk]

hahaha aww im sure you could be a crazy soldier Lauren!

 

My grandma was one of those ladies, she made metal parts for planes or something during WW2 while my grandpa was a pilot of a bomber.

[ecnarf]

You know what I loved about grade 10 history? When we learned about the female contribution to the war effort, we learned about all the health hazards women faced working in jobs normally occupied by men - chemical plants, for example. There was mention of how women were exposed to toxic fumes and chemical burns and all that shit, without mentioning that even more men had been doing the exact same thing for longer. But once a woman is involved...

 

I'll work on the homefront repopulating the planet in preparation for when the war is over.

[Ruettiger]

Oh god, I don't want to imagine many little Adams running around.

[Ravenous megin-sane]

adam you have a very modern outlook on everything that goes on.

 

 

i would never join the army because i don't believe killing innocent people is the way to get anything done.

 

it's not like after one country (or multiple) killed 74923847234623947293 people will the other country go "hey, i finally understand where you guys are coming from! sure, we'll surrender and do everything you want us to"

[Shiri]

No. Two years in the army were far too much anyway.

[sodamntired]

they'd never take me if I wanted to join up (which I don't)

 

 

i need more troops, who do you have?

 

Well, we have a Canadian that lives in America.

 

okay, we can work through that.

 

yes we can, and he also has one shoulder blade, one kidney, a 45 degree curvature in his spine, and poor eyesight.

 

we're screwed.

[Stryfe]

I voted no, life's bad enough without having someone try to kill you. If ww3 happened do you think Canada would start drafting us young sand bags? IF I was drafted I'd fully expect to die somewhere far from home. I'm gunna go listen to "I, the throw away" now...

Edited July 21, 2006 by Stryfe

[arteta]

If WWI killed trench warfare, why was WWII fought in trenches?

 

WWII wasn't fought in the trenches. The only times soldiers ever got bogged down and stayed in the same location for length of time was when they were on a beachead (Anzio), stuck in a city (Ortona, Stalingrad) attacking a mountain/fortress (Monte Casino, Tobruk) or fighting through a fortified position (gothic line). WWII was a war of quick movement. Does the word Blitzkreig mean anything to you?

 

And furthermore, you have no knowledge of European history if you don't understand the underlying causes of WWI (and, by extension, WWII).

 

Really? I wonder how I ended up with this Master's in History then? Maybe I bought it off ebay?

 

 

I'll lead you through the chain of events.

 

1815: After Napolean's defeat, the Congress of Vienna sets the terms of the balance of power in Europe.

1816: Peace in Europe for the next hundred years

1871: Germany unifies and instantly becomes the largest country in Europe

1872: Balance of power remains the same as it was in 1815; Germany pissed off

1873-1913: Pissing contest between European countries

1914: War!

 

Your list is wanting and pathetic. Where is the Franco-Prussian War that resulted in so much anguish over Alsace and Lorraine? Where is the scramble for colonies in Africa? Where is the naval arms race between Britain and Germany? Where are the cries for self-determination from Serbia and other would-be nations? Where is the list of secret alliances made between power blocs that made the war unavoidable following the terms set down by Austria-Hungary following the assassination of Franz Ferdinand? Doesn't really all fit under "pissing contest".

 

EDIT: What the hell do you mean by this:

 

 

Edited July 21, 2006 by arteta

[Ravenous itchy]

Oh god, I don't want to imagine many little Adams running around.

any*

 

5678

[ecnarf]

Oh god, I don't want to imagine many little Adams running around.

any*

 

5678

I share the sentiment.

 

P.S. Arteta - Forget it. I misunderstood what you said.

[Ryan44]

i would go. nuff said.

[Prometheon]

I'm with Meg on this one. I wouldn't go for several reasons:

 

1) Wars are stupid on principle

2) I really don't wanna kill anyone and I definately don't wanna get killed myself. I realise there are other positions, but it's still contributing to the same thing.

 

I also realise that it's sort of hypocritical to not want to kill or be killed, but wanting the freedom that comes from other people doing what I'm not willing to do, but just because I don't want to do something so flawed doesn't mean that it's the right way to do things just because it gets results.

 

Edit: So I guess I really don't have any good answers, but I doubt I'd enrol nonetheless.

Edited July 22, 2006 by Prometheon

[dancing_invisible]

I said no. I cannot see myself joining.

 

I'm fairly anti-war. I agree with Owen's post above. Saved me some writing.

 

I got what Arteta said, History 12 was one of my favorite classes.

[supercanuk]

I'll insert a question. Would you still not fight, knowing that if the other "side" of the conflict was a fascist state? Who would wreak all kinds of unspeakable horrors and keep insane control over the population?

[Spritzup]

Yes, but the world and conflicts in general are rarely so black and white.

[supercanuk]

Very true.

[Azalroth]

Many people join for many reasons, some for vengeance some for patriotism, some just want to have a purpose in life.

[Moonlight_Graham]

who are we declaring war on? We already have declared war on certain terrorists, which is why we're in Afghanistan.

[viewership]

Hell no, I won't go.

 

"I got nothing against no Viet Cong."

[ourmodernred]

Maybe. It seems like most people here won't fight for their country, which is sad. At least people in WWII had values. If the war was for the right reasons, I might do it.

[Lauren]

 

we must remember that people are needed here too. my grandfather wasn't allowed to go to war because he worked at a rubber manufacturing place. but if the forces want a weak vegetarian that faints without warning, they can have me. i wouldn't make boot camp.

nothing wrong with my values. they can have me if they want me, srsly. also, blind loyalty and patriotism are not good values.

[Shiri]

There's no right reason for a war, except for survival.

[guitarchick]

No. I'd never know the entire truth to why everything occurred in the first place. So why the hell would I fight for something that I never would have full understanding of. No matter how many stupid university diplomas you have, you