Grewal Tapes

[Bizud]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/election...ewal_tapes.html

 

Okay, for those who don't know, the gist of the situation is that a Conservative MP, Gurmant Grewal, claims that the Liberals offered him and his wife Nina (also a Conservative MP) better jobs (Senate seat, ambassadorship, etc) if he'd cross the floor to the Liberals or abstain from last month's confidence vote. The Liberals, especially health minister Ujjal Dosanjh, say Grewal came to them repeatedly asking for an offer to be made.

 

So, yeah, does anyone else, y'know...not care? For better or worse in the current system an MP can vote as he or she likes (I personally think an MP who crosses the floor should resign and seek reelection in the byelection), and there's nothing wrong with the Liberals doling out the perks of government to whoever they think they can influence. It's pretty crass to be so open about it, but that's the Liberals for you. I don't see why this is such a big deal, though.

[Seanathon]

It isn't illegal is it? I mean, its sneaky and all (though I suppose not much sneakier than taping your phone calls), but that's politics for you.

Why is the RCMP investigating this?

[Bizud]

I have no idea.

 

I should say I'm not 100% clear on the legalities of it. I know in some jurisdictions it's completely legal to tape private conversations (as it should be), and in others it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge.

 

I don't think it's illegal in Canada to tape someone, but a tape made without someone's knowledge can't be used as evidence against them...or something like that.

Edited June 4, 2005 by Bizud

[no yu begin wher i end]

I've really stopped caring about everything sponsorship program-related. There's just a bunch of crap being flung back and forth that makes me largely apathetic to any of the sides in the issue.

[supercanuk]

I have no idea.

 

I should say I'm not 100% clear on the legalities of it. I know in some jurisdictions it's completely legal to tape private conversations (as it should be), and in others it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge.

 

I don't think it's illegal in Canada to tape someone, but a tape made without someone's knowledge can't be used as evidence against them...or something like that.

As I have learned ( id need to confirm this) but taped coversations can be done only if their is a warrent. The RCMP or Police have to at least get a warrent in order to do this. Well in Ontario that is, im not sure what it is province to province but their must be a warrent to tape someones private conversations as I remember. And just out of curiosity why do you think it should be legal for them to tape private conversations without a warrent?

[Seanathon]

In regards to the illegality of things, I was more referring to the Liberals allegedly offering rewards to vote their way. Just thought I'd straighten that out.

[Bizud]

I have no idea.

 

I should say I'm not 100% clear on the legalities of it.  I know in some jurisdictions it's completely legal to tape private conversations (as it should be), and in others it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge.

 

I don't think it's illegal in Canada to tape someone, but a tape made without someone's knowledge can't be used as evidence against them...or something like that.

As I have learned ( id need to confirm this) but taped coversations can be done only if their is a warrent. The RCMP or Police have to at least get a warrent in order to do this. Well in Ontario that is, im not sure what it is province to province but their must be a warrent to tape someones private conversations as I remember. And just out of curiosity why do you think it should be legal for them to tape private conversations without a warrent?

Not the police, a private citizen. It should be legal for me to tape a meeting between myself and someone else, so that I can prove what went on at that meeting. It should absolutely be illegal for the RCMP to do it, or use it as evidence, without a warrant.

Edited June 6, 2005 by Bizud